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		<title>Interview: Holy Ghost!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For two people who have yet to release their first full-length album, Holy Ghost!&#8217;s Nick Millheiser (right) and Alex Frankel are more popular than you&#8217;d expect. But there&#8217;s a good explanation&#8211; they&#8217;re damn talented at what they do. They make the kind of music I wish I could make (but can&#8217;t, don&#8217;t and never will). Take [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="color: #7b00ee; font-size: small;">F</span>or two people who have yet to release their first full-length album, Holy Ghost!&#8217;s Nick Millheiser (right) and Alex Frankel are more popular than you&#8217;d expect. But there&#8217;s a good explanation&#8211; they&#8217;re damn talented at what they do. They make the kind of music I wish I could make (but can&#8217;t, don&#8217;t and never will). Take a listen to any of their songs (seriously, just pick one, they&#8217;re all fantastic) and hear it for yourself. Even if you don&#8217;t love Holy Ghost!, your favorite musician probably does. It&#8217;s no accident they&#8217;ve been called on to remix the likes of <a href="http://www.myspace.com/wearephoenix">Phoenix</a>, <a href="http://www.myspace.com/cutcopy">Cut Copy</a> and <a href="http://www.myspace.com/moby">Moby</a>.</p>
<p>But they&#8217;re not just talented musicians; they&#8217;re cool guys with a lot of interesting things to say about the themselves and the industry. We recently met in Brooklyn for coffee and pizza so I could ask them some questions. Read below to find out why DJing is less stressful than being in a band, the best places in New York City to buy vinyl, and why James Murphy always makes two albums at once.</p>
<p><em>Need a crash course in Holy Ghost!? They recently released a fantastic mixtape that groups their best remixes into an hour-long set. You probably can&#8217;t score one of the 200 old school cassette mixtapes they put out (try eBay), but don&#8217;t worry&#8211; the mp3 is available on the DFA website. </em><a href="http://www.dfarecords.com/radiomixes/winter2010.html"><em>Download it here</em></a><em>, and cancel your plans for the rest of the day. You&#8217;re not going to be able to stop listening to it.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://uhohdisco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/xgbnls.jpeg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1943" title="Holy Ghost! Mixtape Cover" src="http://uhohdisco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/xgbnls.jpeg" alt="" width="486" height="468" /></a></p>
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<p><em>(NB: For clarity, I’ve occasionally “combined” their answers.)</em></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">How did you two meet?</span></strong></p>
<p>We’ve actually known each other since elementary school. We grew up together in New York City.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">When did you start making music together?</span></strong></p>
<p>We played together in the school band for a while. You know, when we were kids. Then in high school we started a rap group called Automato. It was the two of us and some other friends we went to school with. Holy Ghost! came later.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">What sort of musical background do you have? It sounds like you&#8217;ve got some formal training.</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em><em> </em>I took piano lessons from the father of a kid I went to school with. It was really informal though. And I probably had about five guitar lessons on top of that.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> I took drum lessons from the age of eight until I was eighteen. Niether of us studied music in college, though.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">Where did the name “Holy Ghost!” come from?</span></strong></p>
<p>It’s the name of a Bar-Kays song.</p>
<p><a href="http://uhohdisco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Bar-Kays-Holy-Ghost-Disco-Mix-UhOhDisco.com_.mp3">Bar-Kays &#8211; Holy Ghost (Disco Mix)</a></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">How would you describe the Holy Ghost! sound?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> That’s hard to say. I don’t know. I mean, you tell me. <em>(laughs)</em></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">It’s funny because the first time my friend played me your Lisztomania remix I said &#8220;this sounds like a Holy Ghost! rip-off.&#8221; I think it’s got to do with the warmth of the synths and the tone of the drums. The drums aren’t looped or stuttered or anything.</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em><em> </em>That’s all true. We always record the drums. Actually we record everything into Pro Tools. But that’s it with the computer. We don’t use any of the effects or anything.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">And I know you’ve got more synths than you have room for.</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> But there’s still so many more to buy! <em>(laughs).</em> We definitely use a lot of synths.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://uhohdisco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/HOLY_GHOST_flyer.gif"><img class="size-full wp-image-1939  aligncenter" title="Holy Ghost Flyer" src="http://uhohdisco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/HOLY_GHOST_flyer.gif" alt="" width="288" height="450" /></a></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">What set-up do you use when you’re performing?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> Right now we’re just DJing, but we’ve got a full-on live show coming soon. <em>(More on that below.)</em></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> We just use regular DJing gear&#8211; turntables and a mixer. We’re pretty old-fashioned. Vinyl and CDs. We’re switching more over to CDs now, but still a lot of vinyl.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">Is that because vinyl sounds better? Or because there’s so much stuff that’s only put out on vinyl?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> Both. We definitely play a lot of stuff you can’t always find on CD.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> I do think that when the turntables are properly set up that vinyl sounds better.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> Also, it’s what we learned on. When we first started DJing it was only vinyl, so we’re more comfortable with it. But we use CDJs, too.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">There’s also the fact that CDs are a lot lighter than vinyl.</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> That’s true. But the weight was never that big of a deal. Honestly, I think the only people who bitch about carrying vinyl are people who’ve never been in a band before. It’s just as hard to carry all that equipment around. Once you’re used to carrying around huge cases and moving a drum set it doesn’t seem so bad to carry records.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em><em> </em>Plus when we DJ we usually play, at most, a two-hour set. It’s not like we’re playing one of those all night, midnight-until-dawn things. We’ll play two hours, tops. So that means probably between 30-60 records. Split between two people it’s not so bad.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> Honestly the biggest problem is that some clubs aren’t set up to handle it. We’ll get booked somewhere and have to make sure the club can handle our vinyl.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">Since nobody else is using real vinyl.</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> Right. So we’ll call and ask “Do people play records there?” And they’ll say “Yeah, of course. People play vinyl here all the time!” But you’ve gotta make sure to explain “No, not Serato records. Do they play actual vinyl records?” And then you’ll show up and no one’s played a real record in years. <em>(laughs)</em></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">What’s your favorite and least favorite part about being on tour?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> It’s fun to be on tour. The worst part is the flying. Just being in airports and being on planes all the time. It’s fun because you get to go all over the world. I like touring a lot, I really do.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">What are some of your favorite places to perform?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> There’s a place in Glasgow called Sub Club that’s great.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> There was one place in Zurich; I can’t remember the name. New York City is always fun.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> Honestly, a really good DFA party in New York City is pretty tough to beat.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://uhohdisco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/00cd92c0e0b454a956b3c6995c8.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1938  aligncenter" title="Holy Ghost! Phoenix Cover" src="http://uhohdisco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/00cd92c0e0b454a956b3c6995c8.jpeg" alt="" width="500" height="500" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">Do you notice a big difference in the crowds?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> Oh yeah, totally. It’s very different in other countries.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em><em> </em>The whole culture is different. If you grew up in, say, Berlin, you grew up listening to dance music. And if you’re a teenager or you&#8217;re in your twenties you probably go to dance clubs all the time.</p>
<p>Dance music in America? I think it’s a much newer phenomenon. So in any given city in the states there are only a couple of dance-y places. And everyone plays at the same places.</p>
<p>So a lot of the time we’ll go somewhere and people come see us expecting to hear harder electro stuff. People just expect us to play that since the same venue has had it before. All “dance” music sort of gets lumped together in the same places. But if you go to Germany there’s one club that plays disco, and another club that plays harder electro.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">I think it’s also the misnaming or misgrouping of genres. Like when I say “House music,” I mean the stuff they were playing in Chicago in the nineties. But most people don’t think that.</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> Yeah that’s definitely part of it. That’s why it’s so hard to describe our sound. I don’t know what genre we are.</p>
<p>I mean, I think first and foremost we’d be considered indie. Our sound draws heavily from different genres of dance music. I guess we make maybe neu-disco but we’re not authentically disco. I don’t know. For all our snobbery we just make dance music. I guess maybe electro.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> But right now “electro” now just means literally “electronic music.” <em>(laughs)</em> It could basically be anything. It really has nothing to do with the feel of the music; it’s not a specific sound. People describe us as “electro” even though it’s probably misleading to say that.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> And I mean I listen to a lot of electro and I like a lot of that stuff, but our record couldn’t sound more different.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">How much preparation do you do for your DJ sets?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> We don’t plan it out. Maybe like five minutes before we go on we’ll look at each other and say “So what do you wanna start with?” <em>(laughs)</em></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> But we each know what records the other person has.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">That’s another nice thing about playing with vinyl. You know your record collection really well.</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> Oh for sure. You really know your collection. Sometimes I’ll listen to a song online and the first thirty seconds will sound awesome so I’ll download it. But then I’ll burn it to a CD and listen to the whole song later and the rest will just totally suck. <em>(laughs) <span style="font-style: normal;">But yeah, if you’ve got vinyl you know your music front-to-back.</span></em></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> Also, I think there’s something nice about sort of having to work within the restriction of vinyl. I think I’d be overwhelmed with Serato. It’s just too much music. Same with computers and all those effects. There’s just so many to choose from. I don’t like having too many options.</p>
<p>So when we DJ we’ve got maybe thirty records, and we have to find a way to make everything work. Sometimes we can’t <em>(laughs)</em> but it’s usually pretty good.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> Whenever we play at a place with a computer in front of us I always flip it down. I just think it’s just distracting and gets in between you and everyone else. It creates a barrier so you can’t get a feel for the crowd.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://uhohdisco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/holyghost.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1941  aligncenter" title="Holy Ghost Flyer Knicks" src="http://uhohdisco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/holyghost.jpeg" alt="" width="400" height="566" /></a></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">How do you start when you’re making a song? Drums? Melody?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> It really depends. Half-and-half. Good ideas can come from anywhere. Sometimes piano or vocals. Sometimes drums.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> A lot the time when we’re doing remixes we’ll sort of strip out all the music. Literally take everything out. So we’ll have the bassline, the drums and the melody all separate.</p>
<p>The usual way it works is that one of us starts something then we’ll e-mail the other and say “check it out.” You know, it’s not like every Thursday at 3 o’clock we meet and get work done. We’ll just call and say “let’s work on this.” And then we’ll mess around with it.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">How do you know when you’re finished working on a song?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> We don’t. <em>(laughs)</em></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">When I interviewed Jas Shaw he said something like &#8220;if you’re still changing stuff on a song and it’s not getting any better, you’re probably finished.&#8221;</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> That’s actually a really smart thing to say. Then I guess I would say whenever the final mix is done. There are a couple of songs on the album that are “done,” but it helps to have somebody else mix it. That’s why we’re working with a producer to do the final mix.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">I’ve definitely driven myself crazy EQing that hi-hat nobody’s going to notice anyway.</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> Oh yeah, yeah. Little things like that will just drive you insane. It helps to take time off from it.</p>
<p>So maybe we’ll start late afternoon and mix until midnight. Then I’ll take it home. And even having like a little bit of time, that laundry list of things that you wanted to change, you can cross some of them out right away and figure out what’s important. You can narrow down the list of things that bother you.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">So what’s the status on the LP?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> The album is finished. We were actually just talking the other day about how it’s going to come out. There’s still some stuff to figure out but it’ll probably get released sometime in September or maybe as late as next January.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> There will be singles before then though, for sure. And some remixes. And a lot of touring.</p>
<p>Here’s the thing: when “Hold On” came out, it’s not like we were sitting on another eleven songs to put on an album. You know? So we were really just starting a new record. And even after that single  came out it wasn’t like “we’re going to go to the studio now and make an album.” We went on tour. It was more “Alright, see ya later. We’re going on tour for a year.”</p>
<p><em>(laughs)</em></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> Up until the last couple of months we weren’t always working on the record. But then the last few months we went to finish it.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">Did you even want to make an album? Why not just keep releasing singles?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> I mean I definitely like songs. I like songs that work within the context of an album. But I also like songs that stand on their own. Something good enough to be it’s own 12-inch. Yeah, we could’ve put out a shitty album really quickly. (laughs)</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> I think it was necessary. We were also sort of figuring out what we wanted while we were on tour and in the studio. And you sort of learn by doing. So there was figuring out what we wanted to do, and then taking six months to actually do it. But yeah, we’re excited for it. It’s coming out through DFA.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">How did signing to DFA come about? They just approached you?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> Well they&#8217;re friends of ours. The first band we were in, that rap group Automato, was produced by James Murphy. So he knew who we were back in 2003.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> And I was drumming in The Juan Maclean, another DFA artist.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> And then we sent James the beat to “Hold On.”</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> But it was really casual. Honestly, I think we were probably the last people to know DFA was going to put that song out. We finished it, or at least we finished the demo of it and gave it to Tim Sweeney who played it on <a href="http://www.beatsinspace.net/">Beats in Space</a>. I mean we assumed it was coming out on DFA but we hadn’t really talked about it.</p>
<p>I remember very distinctly being over at Tim Goldsworthy’s house. He was talking about something and he made some mention about how “Hold On” was coming out. And I was like “Well, what is it going to come out on? Is DFA gonna put it out?” And he goes “Oh, yeah yeah.” <em>(laughs)</em></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> That’s how informal it was. I don’t even think we signed anything until a couple of months ago. We really trusted them and they trust us so it works out really well.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://uhohdisco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/holy-ghost-i-will-come-back.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1940  aligncenter" title="Holy Ghost! I will come back" src="http://uhohdisco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/holy-ghost-i-will-come-back.jpeg" alt="" width="400" height="400" /></a></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">The music industry keeps changing. What are your thoughts on the current state of the industry?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> I think it’s much harder to be a star, to be a huge artist. It’s funny because I think if you’ve got a huge voice like Kelly Clarkson, but you don’t write songs and you don’t know anything about production then you’re at a disadvantage.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> You’re not gonna get a big advance from a record label anymore. That’s for sure. It’s all changed so quickly though. When we were in Automato there was no myspace or anything. Everything was about the label and the publisher and we had almost no control over anything. It was totally different.</p>
<p>But when “Hold On” came out, almost instantly people would write to us via myspace and ask us to play at their party. So I guess it’s easier to get a following and get shows without needing to deal with labels and distribution. But it’s much harder to get really rich and famous.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">I think that’s probably, on the aggregate, a good thing. At least in the sense that more people are making money by making music.</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> Oh I do, too. It’s definitely a lot easier to make a decent living. I mean don’t get me wrong, we’re not rich or anything. But we’re getting paid.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> The funny thing is our old band Automato went through basically what was our dream situation. We signed a pretty big major label contract, we got a big signing bonus. We were seventeen years old at the time. But we never made a penny. We were always paying for tour support. And we only put out one vinyl-only single on a record label with two employees.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> Yeah, after Automato I totally thought I would never make a living making music. I mean If I couldn’t make a living after that, it wasn’t gonna happen. And that was like ten years ago.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">What specifically didn’t work out with Automato? The label? The group itself?</span></strong></p>
<p><em>(laughs)</em></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> Everything.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> I mean, yeah, everything. All of that. We had our own dysfunctions and obviously we’re older and more mature now. But I think now having more control over your music you’ve got a lot more responsibility, too. It was easy to say at the time “Oh that’s the label’s fault” whenever something went wrong.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">What about the role of music blogs?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> I think they’re good. I mean I think it depends on their own rating systems and all that. What I mean is that they’re sometimes bad in the sense anyone can write shit about you all the time. But they’re usually really supportive.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> Most blogs serve a niche market. And they’ve got moderate readership.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> They definitely can serve as tastemakers and help bands get popular. I asked my little brother what’s cool now, what do the kids like and he said, “Whatever’s on hypemachine.”</p>
<p>I said, “What does that mean?”</p>
<p>And he just said, “People listen to whatever’s big on hypemachine.” But I don’t know, I don’t use it a lot. For some reason it crashes my computer.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> I don&#8217;t use it either. Alex actually just showed me how it works.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">Are there any specific blogs you do follow?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> <a href="http://outsidebroadcast.blogspot.com/">Eli Escobar</a> has a good one. I like <a href="http://djatrak.com/">A-Trak’s blog</a> a lot.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> <a href="http://djmehdi.coolcats.fr/">DJ Medhi’s blog</a>, too. On Twitter? I pay attention to <a href="http://twitter.com/questlove">Questlove</a>, <a href="http://twitter.com/Hot_chip">Hot Chip</a>.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">What’s coming up from you two in 2010?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> A tour soon, that’s for sure. The live band, too. Not a computer or anything. Drums, synthesizers. We’re still sort of figuring out the set up.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> Our drummer, Jerry (Fuchs), who played on half of our record was going to play live, passed away unexpectedly. So we’re still trying to figure it out. Will our live show be good? I don’t know. I hope so. <em>(laughs)</em></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> We had a very complete plan of how to play live but now it’s going to change. Obviously other than losing such a good friend we had to change the live set-up.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">Right, and it’s not like you can just go hire some studio drummer. It’s not just finding someone who can play drums.</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em><em> </em>Exactly. And Jerry was as good as a studio drummer, but he was also a great guy. You know, he fit in our group of friends and was a really great dude. He had all the same tastes as us and everything. And that’s obviously the most important thing.</p>
<p>You know, look at James. When James put together <a href="http://www.myspace.com/lcdsoundsystem">LCD Soundsystem</a> he basically hand-picked people he wanted to hang out with. But Jerry was technically as good as anyone.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> So we’re going to tour a lot. And we’ll put the record out in the fall or early next year. We just did this thing with <a href="http://www.myspace.com/friendlyfires">Friendly Fires</a>. They covered us and we covered them.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick</span></em><span style="color: #00ccff;">:</span> We’ve got a song from the album coming out soon. Not really a full-on single though.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">What are your long-term career goals?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex</span></em><span style="color: #00ccff;">:</span> Tough to say right now.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick</span></em><span style="color: #00ccff;">:</span> Make a second album. LP2. <em>(laughs)</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://uhohdisco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/discovery_912.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1953  aligncenter" title="Holy Ghost! Flyer 3" src="http://uhohdisco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/discovery_912.jpeg" alt="" width="540" height="705" /></a></p>
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<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">What&#8217;t the best movie you saw last year?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> <em>Inglorious Basterds</em>. I was surprised more people didn’t like it actually.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> Get back to me. Can’t think of one right now.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">Best book you read?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex</span></em><span style="color: #00ccff;">:</span> We both read <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Brotherhood.</span> That was really good.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick</span></em><span style="color: #00ccff;">:</span> And almost the entire Richard Price catalogue. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Lush Life</span> was fantastic. That’s the last Richard Price book. I’ve probably read more books this year than I have in my entire life. At home I never read. But on tour when I’m at an airport or on a plane it’s a great was to pass the time.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">Music recommendation?</span></strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.myspace.com/eliesco">Eli Escobar</a> is great. The new <a href="http://www.myspace.com/shitrobot">Shit Robot</a> is going to be awesome.</p>
<p>The new <a href="http://www.myspace.com/jacquesrenault">Jaques Renault</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.myspace.com/rubntug">Rub-N-Tug</a>. Everything they’ve done. All of it.</p>
<p>That <a href="http://www.myspace.com/stillgoing">Still Going</a> song, “Spaghetti Circus.”</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">A friend visits NYC for a day. Where do you take him/her?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex</span></em><span style="color: #00ccff;">:</span> Just a day, huh? And we’ve gotta do something? <em>(laughs) <span style="font-style: normal;">Probably something local. Grab coffee and pizza. We’re pretty boring.</span></em></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick</span></em><span style="color: #00ccff;">:</span> We’ll go record shopping. Take them to Turntable Lab, A1 and the Academy.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex</span></em><span style="color: #00ccff;">:</span> Then we’ll eat at Marlow &amp; Sons. That’s our favorite restaurant in Brooklyn.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">Is there any city other than New York you’d want to live in?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">At almost exactly the same time</span></em><span style="color: #00ccff;">:</span> Paris.</p>
<p><em>(laughs)</em></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> I would do LA for like six months or so, I think that’s about it. I don’t know. We’re from New York and we like it here.</p>
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<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">It seems like you guys are friend with a lot of the other DJs.</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> Yeah we’re friends with them. Unlike in rock bands where it tends to be sort of insular, DJing is different. A lot of it has to do with people who DJ but come from a background of playing in bands.</p>
<p>Which isn’t to say playing in bands is any less legit than DJing. But it’s infinitely less stressful being a DJ. You don’t have to do sound checks, you’re not lugging around a ton of gear or paying $1000 a flight for weight overages. I’ve gotta say: it’s a pretty sweet gig.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">And you’re playing a lot of the same songs. Or each other’s songs.</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> Right. It’s different than a band doing a cover song. And then when  a DJ you love plays your song it’s like giving props to you.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> You know, one of our favorite DJ’s played “Hold On” and we were like, &#8220;holy shit!&#8221; And there’s a lot of “here’s a song that rules, you should play it too.”</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">I gotta ask: Have you guys heard the new LCD Soundsystem?</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> Some of it, yeah. It’s going to be good.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">I can’t wait. I feel like I’ve been waiting forever for new LCD. I guess there were those 45:33 remixes that came out last year.</span></strong></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> Yeah, the thing is James has been touring a fair amount.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> And it’s taken a while because while he was making the new album he was also doing the score for <em>Greenberg</em>. The same thing happened last time, actually. While he was making <em>Sound of Silver</em> Nike came to him for that mix. And that was basically an album unto itself. So he was sorta making two albums at once.</p>
<p>Same thing now, I guess, with the <em>Greenberg</em> soundtrack. He seems to always make two albums at a time. He works hard and he’s had a pretty prolific last seven years or so if you think about it.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">Definitely. It must have been great working with him. If he wanted to produce my album I’d pretty much sign my life away on the spot.</span></strong></p>
<p><em>(laughs)</em></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> You definitely get a great record made. That’s for sure.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Alex:</span></em> When we first met him I don’t even think the label DFA existed. So maybe he wasn’t as big of a deal back then.</p>
<p><em><span style="color: #00ccff;">Nick:</span></em> Yeah, we started to get to know him right before the first <a href="http://www.myspace.com/thejuanmaclean">Juan Maclean</a> album came out. So there was like that initial hype at the time around them. I’ll say this: he likes a good cup of coffee. <em>(laughs)</em></p>
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<p>Thanks again to Nick and Alex for taking the time to answer all my questions. Here&#8217;s a pair of my favorite Holy Ghost! songs. Enjoy.</p>
<p><a href="http://uhohdisco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Cut-Copy-Hearts-On-Fire-Holy-Ghost-Remix-UhOhDisco.com_.mp3">Cut Copy &#8211; Hearts On Fire (Holy Ghost! Remix)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://uhohdisco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Van-She-Dont-Fear-The-Reaper-Holy-Ghost-Remix-UhOhDisco.com_.mp3">Van She &#8211; (Don&#8217;t Fear) The Reaper (Holy Ghost! Remix)</a></p>
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		<title>Bring Your Questions for Pedro Winter</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nick DiLallo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pedro Winter has a résumé that would make anyone jealous. When he was 21 years old, he started managing a little duo called Daft Punk. Today he&#8217;s the owner and manager of Ed Banger Records, a record label with some of the biggest names in electronic music: Justice, SebastiAn, Krazy Baldhead, and Mr Oizo. He also produces and [...]]]></description>
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<p>Pedro Winter has a résumé that would make anyone jealous. When he was 21 years old, he started managing a little duo called <a href="http://www.myspace.com/daftpunk">Daft Punk</a>. Today he&#8217;s the owner and manager of <a href="http://www.edbangerrecords.com/">Ed Banger Records</a>, a record label with some of the biggest names in electronic music: <a href="http://www.myspace.com/etjusticepourtous">Justice</a>, <a href="http://www.myspace.com/0sebastian0">SebastiAn</a>, <a href="http://www.myspace.com/krazybaldhead">Krazy Baldhead</a>, and <a href="http://www.myspace.com/oizo3000">Mr Oizo</a>. He also produces and performs his own music under the name<a href="http://www.myspace.com/busyp"> Bus</a><span style="color: #000000;"><a href="http://www.myspace.com/busyp">y P.</a></span></p>
<p>Simply put, he&#8217;s got one of the best ears in the business. Frequent readers might remember that we&#8217;ve <a href="http://uhohdisco.com/2008/09/23/busy-busy-busy-p/">posted about him before</a>. He just agreed to do an interview for us via e-mail. Ever wanted to ask him something? Now&#8217;s your chance. Post your questions your questions in the comments section.</p>
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<p><a href="http://uhohdisco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Busy-P-Pedrophilia-UhOhDisco.com.mp3">Busy P &#8211; Pedrophilia</a></p>
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		<title>Simian Mobile Disco: Exclusive Interview (Part 1)</title>
		<link>http://uhohdisco.com/blog/2009/05/03/simian-mobile-disco-exclusive-interview-part-1/</link>
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		<dc:creator>Nick DiLallo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The two members of Simian Mobile Disco have certainly been busy. Remix/production duo James Ford and Jas Shaw are in the middle of a summer-long world tour and just finished a new LP. Lucky for us, they found time to squeeze in a lengthy interview before a recent performance. Read part 1 below for their take [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="color: #7b00ee; font-size: x-small;">T</span>he two members of <a href="www.myspace.com/simianmobiledisco">Simian Mobile Disco</a> have certainly been busy. Remix/production duo James Ford and Jas Shaw are in the middle of a summer-long world tour and just finished a new LP. Lucky for us, they found time to squeeze in a lengthy interview before a recent performance. Read part 1 below for their take on the song-writing process, why it&#8217;s dangerous to overwork, and the best part of being on tour. Part 2 <span style="text-decoration: line-through;"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">coming soon</span><span style="text-decoration: none;">.</span></span> can be found <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://uhohdisco.com/2009/05/06/simian-mobile-disco-exclusive-interview-part-2/"><span style="color: #0000ff;">HERE.</span></a></span></strong></p>
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<p><em>(James was in transit when the interview started, so Jas handled the opening questions.)<br />
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<h3><span style="font-weight: normal; "><strong>Tell me about the formation of Simian Mobile Disco. </strong><strong>How did you decide to get together?</strong></span></h3>
<p><em><span style="color: #7b00ee;">Jas</span>: </em>Before Simian Mobile Disco, we were in a four-piece band called Simian. I played keyboards and James was the drummer. While we were touring with that, the production side of it had quite a lot of electronic things going on. At the time it was very difficult to do that live. The band was really just a traditional rock band. I had one of those old organs, like the one the Monkees used. We had a few triggers and whatnot; but it wasn’t as electronic as we wanted to go, just because it was hard to do live. We had the choice of either playing off of triggers or playing to a backing track, neither of which were really cutting it. We were always really into electronic music. So while we were traveling around, touring with Simian, we started to get some gigs DJing. And we sort of took off from there.</p>
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<h3>What about the name?</h3>
<p><em><span style="color: #7b00ee;">Jas</span>:</em> The gigs came before the name “Simian Mobile Disco”. They called us and asked what we wanted to be called on the flyer. And “mobile disco” is slang for those cheesy performers you see at weddings or bar mitzvahs.</p>
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<h3>What was your musical background like? Did you have any formal training?</h3>
<p><em><span style="color: #7b00ee;">Jas</span>:</em> I had a bit of formal training. Not much, really. I studied violin for a bit. My uncle bought me a guitar and taught me chords, but mostly it was picked up. All of that stuff feeds into how you make music, of course. I think most of my musical knowledge just comes from working at it.</p>
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<h3>Do you think your approach helped?  Did you ever hit a point where you wish you had more training?</h3>
<p><em><span style="color: #7b00ee;">Jas</span>:</em> I think it works differently for different people. I know a lot of people who are really into music theory, and it kind of destroyed any sense of mystery. When I was in Simian I got some piano lessons, just to sort of brush up.  And the teacher was like “I know this chord is going to do this, this chord is going to do that” and it all felt really predictable.</p>
<p>I’m rusty on guitar now, but I find that when you don’t know what you’re playing—when you just sort of make a shape with your fingers and mess around— there’s something exciting about that. You don’t know what you’re playing but you like it. There’s something in that: not knowing exactly what you’re doing, but reacting in an intuitive way. Simian was kind of apelike. It wasn’t dumb, but it was visceral. It was music you got on a very simple level. It’s sort of carried through to the other projects we’ve worked on.</p>
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<h3>What is your song-writing process?  Do you build the songs chords or melodies, or do you write your beats first?</h3>
<p><em><span style="color: #7b00ee;">Jas</span>:</em> It’s a bit of both actually. What we like most about the stuff we’ve already done&#8211; the stuff that has to most longevity&#8211; is good chords.  Production and fashions sort of come and go, but good chords are what they are. There’s really no set way of doing it, but until we find some decent chords or a decent melody we can’t do much. I suppose sometimes if we find some wonky noise or something that might do the trick, but it’s got to be a <em>really good</em> wonky noise.</p>
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<h3>What is the rest of collaboration process like?</h3>
<p><em><span style="color: #7b00ee;">Jas</span>:</em> Both of us use ProTools, both of us know how to use the synths and all that stuff. Once you bring ideas in they never really come out. The way it normally works is one of us will start with something—a couple of chords, a part of a melody—or a sound, something from a delay pedal or a module. You start with one thing and work it from there. We kind of learned to do a lot of our original stuff from doing remixes. The process of remixing is very similar. You just take one thing you like out of a song and then slowly build all the other stuff around it so there’s really nothing from the original track there.</p>
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<h3>How do you decide which songs to remix?  Do people approach you with projects, or is it the other way around?</h3>
<p><em><span style="color: #7b00ee;">Jas</span>:</em> Almost always people come to us. Usually we just get an e-mail from someone in the band or someone at the label, the reason being that the remixes are usually for people’s singles. So the songs themselves aren’t out yet. By the time you hear it, we’ve already remixed it. When we’re asked to do one it’s just a gut reaction. It’s a real danger with the remixes though, when people get too many done. We get loads of offers and it’s a shame because we love doing them. We’ve just both been super busy. We will do more in the future.</p>
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<h3><span style="font-weight: normal; "><strong>How do you know when a song is finished? </strong><strong> </strong><strong>There’s an expression in writing that says “you publish a rough draft.”</strong><strong> </strong><strong> Is making music like that?</strong></span></h3>
<p><em><span style="color: #7b00ee;">Jas</span>:</em>  I disagree with that. I think you get to a point when the job is done, and the job of a producer is to know when the song is done. It’s quite weird, and I find it very difficult to articulate the feeling you get like &#8220;OK, this is done now.&#8221; Usually there are diminishing returns. You work on a song and you get to a certain point where you keep changing things but it’s not getting any better. It may be at that point the song still isn’t done, but we work so quickly that it’s rarely an issue. We’ll get an idea started in a day and then finish a song the day after. We usually start loads of tracks and come back to the ones we like.</p>
<p>I think it’s really dangerous to overwork. Not just that you drive yourself mad (it’s obviously not pleasant to go over and over something), but I think that you lose that spark you have when you first get an idea, when you’re full of ideas. By day four, you’ve tried every drum machine on there and every different synth and you just get a bit jaded with it. And I think sometimes you can hear that jadedness. You can mix the life out of something, make it too smooth.</p>
<p>I know particularly with electronic music it’s a real trap that people fall into—stacking on too much and piling on all those extra noises. I think Nigel Godrich says he has a 24 channel mixer. So if you can’t achieve your sound on 24 tracks then there’s a problem. I think particularly with electronic stuff, people compensate for the fact that they’re using loops by using a <em>lot</em> of loops.</p>
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<h3>What has the current tour been like?  What has been the best part so far?</h3>
<p><em><span style="color: #7b00ee;">Jas</span>:</em>  The best part has got to be traveling around. Before doing this I used to go on holiday and travel around. It’s weird though, because you’re always so busy. Especially with DJing, it usually ends up that we fly in quite late or really early in the morning. It’s frustrating because you get to go to these amazing cities, but you don’t get to do the tourist run. But often the promoter will take you out to a couple of his favorite bars and you get to see people and the way they live. In many ways I think you get a better picture of the town that way.</p>
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<h3><strong>Do you feel like a tourist when you’re on the road?</strong></h3>
<p><em><span style="color: #7b00ee;">Jas</span>:</em> It’s a bit of both tourism and business. You don’t always get somewhere and want to go out. Sometimes you get to a town and you’re super hungover. And sometimes, like today, it just rains all day. Touring can be very repetitive because even though you go to different cities it’s really the same set up everywhere.</p>
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<h3>MSTRKRFT’s Jesse F. Keeler recently said that he liked DJing because he could play anything he wanted, but when he toured with his band he was limited to playing only songs they had written.  Would you agree?</h3>
<p><em><span style="color: #7b00ee;">Jas</span>:</em> It’s interesting because when we were still touring with Simian, we were enjoying the DJing for precisely that reason. When you’re DJing its very different each time.  What the crowd is like and what time it is—all of these things impact what you’re going to play.</p>
<p>It’s very rare that you play the same set twice.  There might be four or five songs that you usually play, but in a two or three hour set that’s like a drop in the ocean. It was something that we really wanted to carry through with the live show for SMD. We wanted to make sure it was very versatile. We’re not very good showmen; and if we’re bored, then we look bored. So we’ve made it that we can play things differently each night—longer and stretched out, or more techno-y.</p>
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<h4>That&#8217;s it for part 1 of the interview.  Be on the look out for part 2 to read their takes on the future of the music industry and when we can expect the new album.</h4>
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